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Monday February 11, 2008 1:28 pm

Flash on iPhone is just around the corner





iPhone Flash pluginEDIT: The Skyfire browser for iPhone allows you to view Flash video directly on your iPhone.

EDIT: Here are the details on Apple and Adobe collaborating on an iPhone Flash player.

EDIT: Here is an update on the whole Flash on iPhone situation.

We’ve been waiting for Flash support to hit the ever since…well…it launched. We’ve had to make do without Flash for almost eight months, and YouTube even had to convert a bunch of their catalog to H.264 in order for the service to be enjoyed on the iPhone. Well, we’ve just got word from a reliable source that Flash support is on its way to the iPhone, and it should be coming very, very soon. Speculating a bit further on our own, we are guessing that it would be pretty convenient for Flash support to be introduced alongside the iPhone SDK, wouldn’t you say? Now, we know that there isn’t much information here, but you also know how strong our sources are too - Flash on the iPhone is coming, just take our word for it, okay?

EDIT: We already have had a couple people ask about the supposed battery and CPU issues that were holding Flash back from being included on the iPhone in the first place. From what I am hearing, it was a complete fabrication. Flash has not yet made it to the iPhone solely due to business negotiations. As we said, it is now on its way!


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well, sept. 30 and adobe makes an announcement that they are looking at developing for iphone.  That’s one pretty big corner!  nice “reporting”.
not that i care, cause I hate flash sites anyway.

nice…. :S

There is a way how to watch flash videos directly from the iphone. Try this tutorial: http://en.vimjak.cz/iphone/how-to-play-flash-videos-on-the-iphone

If you would like to learn how to play the flash videos on your iphone. try this tutorial:
http://en.vimjak.cz/iphone/how-to-play-flash-videos-on-the-iphone

Yeah, it’s 9 months later and firmware 2.2 just came out and we’re to believe Andru’s sources are legit and correct?  Sure, whatever.  And copy and paste?  Will that happen?  Not on your life.  Not with the current 2nd generation iPhone that’s for sure.

Yeah, right.  Firmware 2.2 just came out.  It’s been over 9 mths since we heard about this load of horse poo. We dont even have copy and paste support.  We may be lucky to get copy and paste with the 3rd generation of the iPhone but not before, just like no flash support. 

Andru’s sources have been proven unreliable. Time to get new ones, Andru.

### U @$$ O ....... Its been a year now and still no flash on iPhone so m not taking any word of u ... :/
and dont u ever use words like these “just take our word for it, okay?”
BC

i know this is like a year after you posted this, but you can drag and drop the main menu icons from the iphone home screen.  i don’t see how this makes flash unfeasable.  that youtube works on iphone means that it’s already somewhat compatible.  even limited accessiblity would be ok.  i just want all my video feeds on the damn thing.

ian

Soon? Almost one year after. where it is?

Where is adobe flash for iphone ? I don’t thing it’s coming anytime soon… apple wont let us have flash on iphone because of the content already available in flash and i mostly mean the games yes the games, there are tons of flash games out there far better then the most games on appstore and for FREE. Apple don’t like to loose money not a cent, don’t you get it? Did anyone ever wondered why iphone’s bluetooth is only for headsets and doesn’t allow file transfer ? Because of the itunes on line music store offcourse! 

Okay i somehow understand this company politics about the flash or the bluetooth, the thing i wont ever be able to understand is why there is no flash / led for the camera, why i have to do a surgery to replace the battery, why it does not support video recording from the core and why the heck after numerous firmware upgrades doesn’t support copy and phreakin paste! W-H-Y!

Apple fword you! :[

CuriousCitizen CuriousCitizen 1/19/09 8:30 am

Check out this video which shows a real interactive Flash application running on iPodTouch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsNEdcONwI
Looks like people have figured out a way to run Flash on iPhone/iPodTouch now.

What A Joke What A Joke 1/29/09 9:29 am

“Around the corner…”

Your ‘source’ is garbage and so is this sorry thread.  It will happen huh?  Pathetic.  That’s the beauty of the internet…any ass can post his vast wealth of knowledge for all of us to see.

Garbage.

StraNGeLaD StraNGeLaD 2/12/09 5:14 am

I’m starting to get more and more hacked off with the damn stupid restrictions that Apple have put on my iPhone, I’m actually going to jailbreak it just so I can use it in the same way that every other phone manufacturer allows you to use their phones.
Jobs, you can cram your t&c’s up your tight little sphincter.

iPhone user iPhone user 2/16/09 8:31 am

Apple had to make concessions in order to deliver the best product possible.  Guess what.. they left the door open for us to jailbreak the phones.. Even Steve Wozniak (google him if you don’t know the name) has jailbroken his iPhone…

I actually think it’s good that you have to jailbreak it in order to tinker…  that way,.. it’s at your own risk, and Apple won’t be bothered by tech support calls by dumbasses who installed some piece of crap software.

I agree, the iPhone does need a video recorder… but overall,  EVEN without copy and paste, the thing is a million times better than any other phone because of it’s wonderful interface, wonderful apps, and   have you seen noise.io ??  have you seen Beatmaker?  Have you seen Killer Pool?    someone tell me about any other phone that has applications ANYWHERE EVEN CLOSE TO those apps..  you can’t because no other phone can touch the iPhone.

sure, I want flash..  but you know what, the phone is f’in awesome even without it.

I just want to be able to use google analytics on my iphone. I hope they get it together soon.
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Why is this link still valid?  As of March 17, 2009, Apple says there will be no Flash.

Asked about support for Adobe Flash, “video is still a blackhole if you visit a website with Flash,” Apple said it has no announcements on that front, instead deflecting attention to the fact that the phone supports H.264 video streams, and adds new support for HDTV streaming for audio and video.

Video playback is the main use of Flash on the web outside of animating advertisements. However, a variety of major sites that use Flash for video on the web, including YouTube, CBS Mobile, and the BBC, now push standard H.264 video to the iPhone directly.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/03/17/apple_qa_sheds_light_on_iphone_3_0.html

2009 and no flash. My source told me this “it’ll never be on iphone”.

I know someone that works for adobe and are reasonably high up. He was telling me tat flash for iphone has been finished for ages and that it is apple that is stopping it being released for obvious reason. Those being that they think they will lose revenue from the app store. We need to pressure apple into letting them release this product as it will make the iphone so much better

Jennie Lovo Jennie Lovo 6/10/09 4:21 pm

I live in Sweden and here we have Flash on our iPhones.
Write me and I will show you mine iPhone.

Randy Mathews Randy Mathews 6/16/09 11:28 am

I would like to see it.

LEO MEER LEO MEER 6/17/09 2:38 pm

I really can’t wait until the flash is supported on the iphone. Is it available on the new 3.0 update?... does anyone know?...

LEO MEER LEO MEER 6/17/09 2:42 pm

I really cant wait until the flash is supported on the iphone. Is it available on the new 3.0 update?... does anyone know?...

No flash No flash 7/7/09 7:52 pm

I’m typing this comment with a 3.0 iPhone - no Flash support! Good luck to all of you.

Roger Wilco Roger Wilco 7/23/09 11:42 pm

Andru’s pretty quiet on this one, isn’t he. Perhaps he is out looking for a new source. Hey Andru! I hear Tabasco is pretty good!

I have a source - a high, HIGH up source -  who says that the next firmware release will allow time travel but only to Apple approved dates. I have a jailbroken phone that gets round it tho!

Roger Wilco

This is the reason i got an Android phone (htc dream/T-mobile G1) it allows picture messaging, you can download pics off the net and set them as wallpapers, it has a keyboard which slides out, giving more screen room when typing/messaging, and with the new update it gives an onscreen keyboard as an option and video recording and playback. Flash has been officially announced for october 09 and as far as i can gather, apple will not allow flash on the iphone as it will lose them money, if people can play flash games they wont pay for them from the appstore, and if people can listen to music on the internet through flash itunes will suffer. apple is obviously more about money than customer satisfaction. Thats why i went with android, apps are open for anyone to create and distribute, and the majority of them are completely free.

Flash will never be on iPhone/iTouch. Bottom line.

I to opens up a Pandora’s box. Flash developers like myself know this. The flash API would allow for a plethora of apps to be developed outside of the proprietary terms and conditions that Apple is so stringent with.

For example. Did you know that with flash you can call anyone in the world…...for free.

Check out ribbit if you don’t believe me.

Just jailbreak your fone.. takes about 20 seconds.

web development web development 10/13/09 5:58 am

Humm… interesting,

ive been wating for flash to be available for my g1 i hope that comes soon too!

Thanks for writing, most people don’t bother.

I understand Apples position on not wanting to lose money on their App. Store, but why not develop a limited version of Flash just exclusively for video?  I love the games and Apps available for the iPhone.  They are High quality AND affordable, and I’ll happily pay for them.  I simply want the additional video support.  Please consider it Mr. Jobbs!

Kozyinn Kozyinn 1/4/10 9:25 am

I’m a magazine publisher and want Flash on the iPhone so my subscribers can view their digital issues.  I can’t recommend that my customers have to jailbreak their phones to do this.  I wish Apple and Adobe would stop this cluster and think about supporting the customers who have supported them.

ye but with imobilecinema u dnt get divx or zshare, even most of the megavideo links dnt work anymore cos they are all hd or removed.

Yes, Flash for the… Android Phones!! Now we all switch to Android when the contract with AT&T expires!

FjordPrefect FjordPrefect 3/12/10 6:43 am

I’ve heard so many different possible reasons why the iPhone doesn’t have Flash and I’m sick of it. Apple needs to start delivering to its customers WHAT THEY WANT, not what Steve THINKS we want. Adobe’s Flash is too slow and crash-prone for the iPhone? Then write your own support software so you can keep the frameworks proprietary. OS X’s display is based on Adobe’s PostScript model, but Apple wrote their own code to interpret it so they wouldn’t have to pay Adobe licensing fees. Why can’t they do this with iPhone? Or at least the iPad?

- Sick and tired of it all

Flash Drive Recovery Flash Drive Recovery 4/7/10 7:45 am

Flash would be nice but I have a feeling it would also lead to your phone crashing more then usual.  Does anyone else think that this would be a common problem?

I dont believe how foolish you people are here.  Get a fricken grip. There’s about as much chance as the iPhone or iPad having flash as there is cheese on the moon.

Let it go…quite fantasizing about flash on the iPhone. It’s not going to happen in our lifetime eor in Steve Job’s either.  Now, get going…move along to another thread.

Jailbreak? Jailbreak? 4/7/10 10:05 pm

Umm. Jailbreaking doesnt give u flash. Now, quite promoting crap.

Samuel Asher Rivello Samuel Asher Rivello 4/9/10 4:31 pm

I’m not that worried. I have already invented a transcoder from Actionscript 3.0 to Objective-C.

Its called India.

Haha. To hear my real thoughts on the subject and voice your own, checkout the blog; http://www.blog.rivello.org/no-flash-on-iphone-ever

seanknight seanknight 4/27/10 7:51 am

That’s why I hesitate to get an Iphone or not. Why is it so hard to have flash on a apple product?. I’m going to wait for the Google-Phone to be prettier.

Seanonymous Seanonymous 5/10/10 12:58 pm

So, anyone still think this is going to happen?

Fotografi Fotografi 5/10/10 8:04 pm

Last year I noticed from my Log Files that the 17% of my web contacts came from mobile devices and that the 90% of that were coming from Iphones. I also noticed that the 95% of my clients own an Iphone. I have two web sites ( http://www.wedding-photographer.it/ and http://www.fotografo-matrimonio.biz/ ) that drive me a lot of clients and so I decide to develop a non flash based section of the sites. While Apple and Adobe are arguing I have to find an alternative.

Dr. John Baron, cosmetic dentist Dr. John Baron, cosmetic dentist 5/18/10 1:36 pm

I guess this is a good thing. even though I highly disapprove of flash. It is horrible for SEO.

anonymous anonymous 6/1/10 4:32 am

your are retarded…

what you said makes no sense at all, you can drag with the itouch/iphone and everything that was keyboard related was converted to itouch/iphone keyboard format…

@last commenter:

No, you and many other posters here are retarded because you have such abysmal comprehension and reading skills: when the guy above mentioned a
problem with drag+drop, mouse over and keyboard input, he showed clear understanding of how a modern “software stack” works. To make it simpler to understand for non-programmers you need to understand that input events (ex. mouse hover) over a Flash surface would be handled by the plugin that implements the Flash “protocol”. If said plugin does not do the right thing, the Flash “app” won’t function correctly. And because Flash is NOT and never was designed for touch/multitouch input (nor does it support it on any current release as far as I know), it simply won’t “pass” the user’s input/“commands” down to the Flash “app” so it can display the right thing (aka: it won’t work correctly). The only possibility of getting it to work is if Adobe (which as far as we know has NOT ported Flash to the iPhone/iPod/iPad - and don’t be fooled, it’s Adobe that Is the ONLY one that can do so because Flash is indeed a propriatery/closed technology - Apple can’t do #### about that) adds various hacks and kudlges into the supposed iPhone Flash version in order to work closer to how it would on a computer. (And this is why Apple continuously points to how Flash is closed and thus something they don’t want to be sackled by, as Adobe will be in complete control and Apple and their customers, YOU, at Adobe’s mercy - either slow or buggy progress or underperforming software). If you don’t understand these things, you’re really in the dark about how software works, what is possible or not, what is viable as a strategy or not and why Apple has made their choices. The take away is that Flash is NOT touch/multitouch compatible, thus outdated for touch devices.

As for the CPU usage and battery drain caused by Flash, they’re very valid points and one can do a simple test to verify: load a Myspace page with Flash enabled and make your laptop not sleep and measure how long it stays on. Disable Flash and load the same page and measure. If for whatever reason you don’t see a difference try 5-10 tabs with various pages with Flash. You will definitely see it.

Also, do a similar test by playing videos via Flash and direct H.264 streams through a browser. You will again note that Flash will drain your battery faster. It’s too complicated to explain right now but basically decoding video through Flash goes through a “deeper” (more complicated) software stack, thus more work for the CPU.

Typed on my iPhone. Virtual keyboard works just great if you’re not a whiner/hater and willing to “try before you cry” smile

Dr. Jeremy Abbott Dr. Jeremy Abbott 6/25/10 3:37 pm

That is so convenient that Flash will be on the iphone/itouch.  That will be so beneficial to so many websites.  However, how does flash affect your Search engine ranking?

diseño web diseño web 10/24/10 11:43 am

“when was the last time I saw a stand alone Flash application?”

?  You must be out of touch Sean - Adobe/Flash Developers have had the ability to create stand alone AIR applications for several years now.  They can be installed on a laptop/desktop just like any other program.  No need for a web browser.

Since when do doctors lack reading skills?  Do some of you need a blow horn to understand: iPhone will NEVER have FLASH!!  Is this clear???  JOBS has a personal issue with Adobe and he will NEVER allow FLASH.  This will carved on JOBS; tombstone.    Let this thread/blog die now.  Good day!!!

Time has shown what a crap article this is. “Flash is coming, just take our word for it, ok?”. Yeah right. Sounds like a bad joke more then anything else.

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Well, To make it simpler to understand for non-programmers you need to understand that input events (ex. mouse hover) over a Flash. smile

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