Very, very nice.  zxvipxz approved!  This is basically EXACTLY what I use when I invest.

Sweet, now if I could ever get my first payment from 12dp I’d have something to start with.

Thanks for the guide Volcompunk

Thanks for the guide. Ï‘m also not an admire of the “test run”, because It’s all about earning when it’s possible. BUt many people want this test-period…

Do you mean that if a programme is more than 3 days old, existed more than 3 days, then it’s not worth investing in???

Does anybody know the average lifetime of HYIP???

20 days

The time that they actually pay out is under 20 days.. but you know I am saying this is a way to NEVER lose money, I’m sure you could stretch it but then you would be taking more of a risk…

While these are all good guidelines for people who have some extra cash to throw out the window, everyone should be aware of one thing:

no HYIP is EVER safe.

99.99% of the HYIPs are EXTREMLY high risk, and if you think otherwise you’re biased, lucky or foolish.

well, naturally, HYIP is never safe but this is guide that I will guarentee if you follow my guidlines you will never lose your money, if you do lose your money you are not following my guidlines exactly as they are written above.

I read somewhere that the average paying lifetime of all hyips is 3 days.  I think it’s true.  Better get in on day 0 or day 1 imho.  And absolutely NOT “the most money you can all at once”.  Invest anything over like 1000$, say bye to it for sure.  Even above 20$ is risky.  MMG and the other tips are great though.  Good job.

Hey guys I decided to sticky this seeing as it would help some of the new comers.  Share any other tips you got in here and if everyone thinks they are good I will add them to the first post.

Well another one will be to double-check if the NETIBA certificate # is valid.  A lot of sites out there are NOT netiba certified, yet they post the certificate of some other site who truly is.

When you spend to someone who is NETIBA certified, you can chargeback.  If they are not certified, you CANNOT chargeback!  It’s written on the Stormpay site.

You are actually guaranteeing that I will never lose my money? 

While this is definately good advice for those who are willing to throw their money away, I would hardly call this a ‘guarantee’

one of your steps is to THROW AS MUCH AS YOU CAN IN.  So what are you going to do when some newb uses your ‘guaranteed method’ and gets burned for $2,000 - are you going to pay them back?

Look I’m not trying to attack you but now this is being stickied!  There is no safe HYIP investment strategy.

Just because a program is new and has paid some MMG members, doesn’t mean they are paying EVERYONE.

Here are some HYIP scam strategies I’ve come across in my time:

1) Fake payments.  You get into a HYIP on Days 1-4 and they send out fake payments.

2) Half payments. You get into a HYIP where members have posted that they’ve been paid on MMG.  however this HYIP is only paying half to people to create a buzz and get more suckers to invest.

3) False Stats.  You can never truly tell how many people invested and how much has been paid out.  HYIP admins will throw some big numbers to make you think that you can still get in and make some money.

4) Low payments.  I’ve seen HYIPs that only paid out low investors (under $500) to attract high rollers.  For poor newbs who follow your guide, they would throw everything they could into this HYIP and lose it because of your 2nd step.

Please UNSTICKY this thread and lock it.  HYIPs are bad news, I can’t believe GearLive is promoting investing in HYIPs to its members…

He may have said guaranteed, but I don’t think anyone really believes that. All it is, is a basic guide that gives you your best shot at making some money and not losing money in long term investments in those sites.

Even if someone guarantees it, it’s still there choice to take the chance with their money.

darbsllim, what do you know about what’s best for gearlive, hmmm.. not much considering your forum stats

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LOL “fake payments” umm.. I suggest you read in my guide I tell people to look for multiple people getting paid, and to basically look in MMG for any suspicious posts that indicate a HYIP might be not legitament. I bet you haven’t even read my guide, because I TELL PEOPLE TO FOLLOW ALL MY TIPS NOT JUST TIP #2, like you suggested yes if you just followed step #2 you would lose your money, but I challenge you to follow all my advice and invest in an HYIP, let me know if you win or lose.

Of course you are bound to get burned by HYIP’s eventually, but if you follow my guidlines you will earn a whole hell of a lot more than you will lose.

I follow my own tips and i have made over 2,000 dollars (in pure profit) in a couple of weeks off of HYIP’s (lost $67 total because I didn’t follow my tip #1-c), I have maxed out my 12dp account already.

So before you come in here bashing my guide with your “fake payments, low payments and half payments” Go get some real life experiance with HYIP’s, and try not to make stupid crap up.

And if you are so upset that gearlive “endorses” HYIP’s why don’t you check the name of this forum right here,“auto surf forum”, If gearlive has a whole forum for auto surfs, why would you be so suprised if they endorsed HYIP’s too? If you think auto surfs are 100% safe why don’t you ask some of the people in here about “squaresurf” and 4daily. You really must be blind or something, but I honestly don’t want to hear your excuse.

As you can see I’m not promoting any HYIP, or trying to get referals by posting this guide, I am genuinely trying to help the people in these forums NOT LOSE MONEY.

My intentions are to help people, I wish I could say the same for your intentions, newbie.

darbsllim - 31 January 2006 06:02 PM

Please UNSTICKY this thread and lock it.  HYIPs are bad news, I can’t believe GearLive is promoting investing in HYIPs to its members…

Please DO NOT tell me what to do. I am the moderator, not you. You sure got a lot of guts telling a mod what to do with just having joined a couple of days ago. With that said, I will unsticky it because I don’t want any trouble with Andru. Althought I will unsticky this I will make another thread on which everyone can share tips. This thread will not be locked. And people know this is risky business from the start. Websites requiring referrals at some point weren’t safe either. Volcompunk please submit your guide to the new thread. 

P.S.: Who ever said Gear Live was promoting anything?

P.S. I edited my original post to better reflect the nature of HYIP’s.

Hope this helps even more now!

Oh my god I hate IE.  I just spent 30 minutes replying to your post and I hit back by accident and now it’s all erased.

volcompunk - 31 January 2006 06:32 PM

darbsllim, what do you know about what’s best for gearlive, hmmm.. not much considering your forum stats

my stats are higher where it counts

[quote author=“volcompunk”]
LOL “fake payments” umm.. I suggest you read in my guide I tell people to look for multiple people getting paid, and to basically look in MMG for any suspicious posts that indicate a HYIP might be not legitament.

once again.  Just because some members at MMG are getting paid, doesn’t mean you will get paid.  They pay some members to create “I GOT PAID” posts, which in turn creates a new influx of investors who won’t get paid.

[quote author=“volcompunk”]I challenge you to follow all my advice and invest in an HYIP, let me know if you win or lose.

Why don’t you give me your ‘guarantee’ then?

[quote author=“volcompunk”]
So before you come in here bashing my guide with your “fake payments, low payments and half payments” Go get some real life experiance with HYIP’s, and try not to make stupid crap up.

Ive probably done about 40 HYIPs over the last year, I’ve made about $6000 and lost about $4000.  I don’t try to fill people with false hopes.

[quote author=“volcompunk”]
And if you are so upset that gearlive “endorses” HYIP’s why don’t you check the name of this forum right here,“auto surf forum”, If gearlive has a whole forum for auto surfs, why would you be so suprised if they endorsed HYIP’s too? If you think auto surfs are 100% safe why don’t you ask some of the people in here about “squaresurf” and 4daily.

HYIPs are completely different than autosurfs.  People need to be aware that HYIPs are VERY HIGH RISK things to get involved with.  I don’t want anyone to think “Oh I can just follow this guy’s steps here and I’ll make enough for 4 months rent!” meanwhile they invest rent money and lose it.

You have to do your due dilligence on an autosurf before jumping in.  They are low risk if you do it right.

[quote author=“volcompunk”]
You really must be blind or something, but I honestly don’t want to hear your excuse.

So now you’re going after the blind as well?

[quote author=“volcompunk”]
As you can see I’m not promoting any HYIP, or trying to get referals by posting this guide, I am genuinely trying to help the people in these forums NOT LOSE MONEY.

My issue was over the fact that this was stickied, and that you are fluffing this up like it’s a soft pillow filled with money and feathers.

If you invest money into a HYIP, know that it is a volitile thing.  Be prepared to not get that money back.

No HYIP is ever Guaranteed.

Look I understand that you have make a lot off of these.  For that reason, you are biased and lucky.  If you keep investing, even if you follow your steps, you WILL lose money.  Now that is something I can slap a sticker on.

[quote author=“volcompunk”]
My intentions are to help people, I wish I could say the same for your intentions, newbie.

Your guidelines are about the best you can follow for investing in HYIPs.  If you are going to invest in a HYIP, yes follow these steps - but my issue is over the fact that people are filled with false hopes of guarantees and safety.

I’ve done about 40 HYIPs myself and I’ve used common sense, exactly like what you’re posting about here.  It doesn’t matter what you do, you will eventually lose because no HYIP follows a set of rules.

They are 99.99% ponzis and scams, and the admins run them however they like.  You are just a factor in the equation of who will get paid and who will not.  using these tips MAY increase your chances of getting paid, but it all depends on the admin, when he wants to hit the self-destruct button is not up to your guidelines.

I just want people to fully be aware of the risks of HYIPs.

LOL another “I just want everyone to know the risks”

Broseph, we went over that about 2 months back, everyone in these forums is well informed on the risks of HYIP and Auto Surf’s.

Sheesh you are not the first newbie to come in here talking down to us, and you should know that we don’t appreciate it. Why don’t you start at the first page of the 12dp thread and read through it, then when you get the time, read through all the other pages of all the other threads from the past 2 months. You are beating a dead horse here, one that has been dead for about 2 months now. and every single time someone comes in here talking like we all don’t know what risk means or what an HYIP means we all just roll our eyes and try to ignore them. No one in here is stupid, so why don’t you try actually posting in these forums for more than a couple of days before acting above us.

I made this guide for the people who have been here along with me in these forums for the past 3 months, again if you had even read my guide you would have known that.

It seems like you are biased against HYIP’s because you have lost so much to them, maybe you should try using my tips next time

a 6,000 to 4,000 ratio of profits to losses is what I like to call someone who should not be messing around with the HYIP world. If I were you I’d stop investing in HYIP’s too

Just let the sheep follow each other into the next scam man… they wont get it

Throw your rent money into every new hyip that comes along and you will get burned sooner than later. Its better to throw money in and just write it off as a loss..

boardgame - 31 January 2006 08:28 PM

Just let the sheep follow each other into the next scam man… they wont get it

Throw your rent money into every new hyip that comes along and you will get burned sooner than later. Its better to throw money in and just write it off as a loss..

For your information I’m not encouraging anyone to invest in anything in this thread. This is a informational guide not a desperate plea for referals for any kind of “scam”, and I’m not saying to put your rent money in, LOL try actually reading the guide.

To quote you “Its better to throw money in and just write it off as a loss..” yes that is what you should do, it’s call investing money you CAN afford to lose.

This guide is not for sheep or for the encouragement of investing in “scams” per se, it’s more of a guide for those who are already willing to make the commitment to try and invest in the HYIP world.

It’s basically a take it or leave it deal.

If you don’t want to invest in HYIP’s, thats fine by me, stop posting in this thread.

If you want to invest in HYIP’s be my guest and use this guide as you can see many people can agree the tips covered are quite useful.

Its just the way that you wrote “invest the most money you can invest all at once”, it might get some people throwing the rent money in and thats the only problem

boardgame - 31 January 2006 09:08 PM

Its just the way that you wrote “invest the most money you can invest all at once”, it might get some people throwing the rent money in and thats the only problem

a. For example don’t throw in 50 bucks for a test run, there is no need for a test run, it just elongates the time in HYIP which = more risk

unfortunately for me, $50 isn’t a test run for me. I keep getting owned by these HYIPs. I did onedayinvest and almost made it 24hrs. Doh.

This just got out of control.

http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/1329/